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Well, as it appears to me, there are no rules for communicating about audio qualities right now, something that is essential for a functional language to work. We have a whole truck-load of words, all of which mean different things to everyone. Tower of Babel. A lot of these words have been invented, I think, by the audio press. Imagine making up language for what you think you heard over the differences in audio qualities between normal and "special" AC power cords or different wood that you laid your speaker cables next to. Honest. I have seen this and much more. | Well, as it appears to me, there are no rules for communicating about audio qualities right now, something that is essential for a functional language to work. We have a whole truck-load of words, all of which mean different things to everyone. Tower of Babel. A lot of these words have been invented, I think, by the audio press. Imagine making up language for what you think you heard over the differences in audio qualities between normal and "special" AC power cords or different wood that you laid your speaker cables next to. Honest. I have seen this and much more. | ||
− | I'm going to post the 10-word vocabulary I have been teaching here at Bose. "your rules" hit me funny, like it's my ball and you have to play this way or forget it. It's not like this is the script carved on the holy tablets by God, or whatnot. It's just an attempt, a proposal, for any rule where there really aren't any. I think that if we can at least agree on 10 words, it's a start. Actually, these words are a "middle man" to what we really need to do: Hear, listen (the combined activity of taking in audio information, thinking and concluding) and identify in real engineering terms. Like, for instance, a "nasal" quality is heard, the thought process says "aha, too much level in the 1KHz octave" and then you can do something about it, like reach for the 1KHz part of an equalizer and make it sound normal. The words describe familiar qualities we are all familiar with, many having to do with our knowledge of how normal human speech sounds. | + | I'm going to post the 10-word vocabulary I have been teaching here at Bose. "[http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3976055944/m/6621062011?r=7211049311#7211049311 your rules]" hit me funny, like it's my ball and you have to play this way or forget it. It's not like this is the script carved on the holy tablets by God, or whatnot. It's just an attempt, a proposal, for any rule where there really aren't any. I think that if we can at least agree on 10 words, it's a start. Actually, these words are a "middle man" to what we really need to do: Hear, listen (the combined activity of taking in audio information, thinking and concluding) and identify in real engineering terms. Like, for instance, a "nasal" quality is heard, the thought process says "aha, too much level in the 1KHz octave" and then you can do something about it, like reach for the 1KHz part of an equalizer and make it sound normal. The words describe familiar qualities we are all familiar with, many having to do with our knowledge of how normal human speech sounds. |
But, for this discussion, here are the 10 words, which describe a 1 octave excess level in the stated center of that octave (these are all "ISO standard center frequencies"). These can be used anywhere but hopefully for better communication about qualities about our system, for better or for worse: | But, for this discussion, here are the 10 words, which describe a 1 octave excess level in the stated center of that octave (these are all "ISO standard center frequencies"). These can be used anywhere but hopefully for better communication about qualities about our system, for better or for worse: | ||
− | <table> | + | <table cellpadding="5"> |
− | <tr><td width=" | + | <tr><td width="50">woofy </td><td style="width:50;text-align:right;">31Hz </td><td style="width:50;">octave</td><td style="width:250;">deep bass</td></tr> |
− | <tr><td>boomy </td><td>62 Hz octave</td></tr> | + | <tr><td>boomy </td><td style="text-align:right;">62 Hz </td><td>octave</td><td>bass</td></tr> |
− | <tr><td>punchy </td><td>125 Hz octave</td></tr> | + | <tr><td>punchy </td><td style="text-align:right;">125 Hz </td><td>octave</td><td>mid bass</td></tr> |
− | <tr><td>chesty </td><td>250 Hz octave</td></tr> | + | <tr><td>chesty </td><td style="text-align:right;">250 Hz </td><td>octave</td><td>upper bass</td></tr> |
− | <tr><td>honky </td><td>500 Hz octave</td></tr> | + | <tr><td>honky </td><td style="text-align:right;">500 Hz </td><td>octave</td><td>low midrange</td></tr> |
− | <tr><td>nasal </td><td> | + | <tr><td>nasal </td><td style="text-align:right;">1,000 Hz </td><td>octave</td><td>midrange</td></tr> |
− | <tr><td>quacky </td><td> | + | <tr><td>quacky </td><td style="text-align:right;">2,000 Hz </td><td>octave</td><td>upper mid-range</td></tr> |
− | <tr><td>shrill </td><td> | + | <tr><td>shrill </td><td style="text-align:right;">4,000 Hz </td><td>octave </td><td>high midrange (the most annoying octave to be accented)</td></tr> |
− | <tr><td>spitty </td><td> | + | <tr><td>spitty </td><td style="text-align:right;">8,000 Hz </td><td>octave</td><td>high frequency [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/8321096694/inlineimg/Y/cuchara_post_pix_-_16.jpg Cliff demonstrates "Spitty"]</td></tr> |
− | <tr><td> | + | <tr><td>air </td><td style="text-align:right;">16,000 Hz </td><td>octave</td><td>very high frequency</td></tr> |
</table> | </table> | ||
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− | Here are some cuts from Cliff's Spectral Identification disc. Personally, there have been a few key people here at Bose who have helped broaden my listening capabilities by teaching me how and what to listen to. Cliff is definitely one of those persons who have helped me tune my senses. I hope these tracks are as helpful to you as they were to me. In addition, also consider the audio ear training course from Dave Moulton called [http://www.moultonlabs.com/gold.htm" Golden Ears]. Although it's much more catered to the intricacies of recording music, it's very helpful in general ( | + | Here are some cuts from Cliff's Spectral Identification disc. Personally, there have been a few key people here at Bose who have helped broaden my listening capabilities by teaching me how and what to listen to. Cliff is definitely one of those persons who have helped me tune my senses. I hope these tracks are as helpful to you as they were to me. In addition, also consider the audio ear training course from Dave Moulton called [http://www.moultonlabs.com/gold.htm" Golden Ears]. Although it's much more catered to the intricacies of recording music, it's very helpful in general (By the way it’s a lengthy 8 discs I think). Here goes with Cliff’s recordings... |
+ | <table><tr><td style="text-align:center;">Play Now (double-click a track to play it) | ||
+ | </td> | ||
+ | <td style="text-align:center;">Download</td></tr> | ||
+ | <tr><td valign="top"> | ||
+ | {{:Spectral Identification/Player2}} | ||
− | # [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/3841037694/02._Track_2.mp3 Male voice] 12dB boost, all 10 octaves, rapid play (1,070 KB, | + | </td> |
− | # [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/6101047694/05._Track_5.mp3 Male voice] 12dB boost, all 10 octaves, rapid play, general descriptors (354 KB, | + | <td valign="top"> |
− | # [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/9221047694/07._Track_7.mp3 Male voice] 12dB boost, all 10 octaves, rapid play, frequencies called out (375 KB, | + | # [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/6461088694/spectral.zip All files below in one file] (15,507 KB, zip) |
− | # [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/7421047694/10._Track_10.mp3 Female voice comparison] original then 12dB boost, all 10 octaves (2,070 KB, | + | # [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/3841037694/02._Track_2.mp3 Male voice] 12dB boost, all 10 octaves, rapid play (1,070 KB, mp3) |
− | # [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/7621047694/14._Track_14.mp3 Female voice] 12dB boost, rapid play, all 10 octaves (521 KB, | + | # [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/6101047694/05._Track_5.mp3 Male voice] 12dB boost, all 10 octaves, rapid play, general descriptors (354 KB, mp3) |
− | # [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/2031047694/19._Track_19.mp3 Pop synth tune] 12dB boost, 10 octaves (3,231 KB, | + | # [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/9221047694/07._Track_7.mp3 Male voice] 12dB boost, all 10 octaves, rapid play, frequencies called out (375 KB, mp3) |
− | # [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/6131047694/23._Track_23.mp3 Pop synth tune] 12dB boost, 10 octaves, rapid play (1,073 KB, | + | # [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/7421047694/10._Track_10.mp3 Female voice comparison] original then 12dB boost, all 10 octaves (2,070 KB, mp3) |
− | # [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/9431047694/24._Track_24.mp3 Orchestral] 12dB boost, 10 octaves (3,371 KB, | + | # [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/7621047694/14._Track_14.mp3 Female voice] 12dB boost, rapid play, all 10 octaves (521 KB, mp3) |
− | # [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/8301088694/28._Track_28.mp3 Orchestral], 12dB boost, 10 octaves, rapid play, 1st 4 measures (1,180 KB, | + | # [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/2031047694/19._Track_19.mp3 Pop synth tune] 12dB boost, 10 octaves (3,231 KB, mp3) |
+ | # [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/6131047694/23._Track_23.mp3 Pop synth tune] 12dB boost, 10 octaves, rapid play (1,073 KB, mp3) | ||
+ | # [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/9431047694/24._Track_24.mp3 Orchestral] 12dB boost, 10 octaves (3,371 KB, mp3) | ||
+ | # [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/8301088694/28._Track_28.mp3 Orchestral], 12dB boost, 10 octaves, rapid play, 1st 4 measures (1,180 KB, mp3) | ||
+ | </td> | ||
+ | </tr> | ||
+ | </table> | ||
+ | Or download [http://toonz.ca/media/videos/Bose_ListeningReference.exe Bose_ListeningReference.exe (91 megabytes)] | ||
+ | <!-- | ||
+ | See also: [[Identifying Spectral Excess in Musical Sounds]] | ||
Source: [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3976055944/m/6621062011?r=6621097411#6621097411 Presets 2.0 Anyone Listening] | Source: [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3976055944/m/6621062011?r=6621097411#6621097411 Presets 2.0 Anyone Listening] | ||
+ | --> | ||
+ | <noinclude> | ||
+ | ---- | ||
+ | [[Category:Concepts]] | ||
+ | [[Category:Terminology]] | ||
+ | |||
+ | |||
+ | </noinclude> |
Latest revision as of 03:51, 23 September 2010
Cliff-at-Bose
Well, as it appears to me, there are no rules for communicating about audio qualities right now, something that is essential for a functional language to work. We have a whole truck-load of words, all of which mean different things to everyone. Tower of Babel. A lot of these words have been invented, I think, by the audio press. Imagine making up language for what you think you heard over the differences in audio qualities between normal and "special" AC power cords or different wood that you laid your speaker cables next to. Honest. I have seen this and much more.
I'm going to post the 10-word vocabulary I have been teaching here at Bose. "your rules" hit me funny, like it's my ball and you have to play this way or forget it. It's not like this is the script carved on the holy tablets by God, or whatnot. It's just an attempt, a proposal, for any rule where there really aren't any. I think that if we can at least agree on 10 words, it's a start. Actually, these words are a "middle man" to what we really need to do: Hear, listen (the combined activity of taking in audio information, thinking and concluding) and identify in real engineering terms. Like, for instance, a "nasal" quality is heard, the thought process says "aha, too much level in the 1KHz octave" and then you can do something about it, like reach for the 1KHz part of an equalizer and make it sound normal. The words describe familiar qualities we are all familiar with, many having to do with our knowledge of how normal human speech sounds.
But, for this discussion, here are the 10 words, which describe a 1 octave excess level in the stated center of that octave (these are all "ISO standard center frequencies"). These can be used anywhere but hopefully for better communication about qualities about our system, for better or for worse:
woofy | 31Hz | octave | deep bass |
boomy | 62 Hz | octave | bass |
punchy | 125 Hz | octave | mid bass |
chesty | 250 Hz | octave | upper bass |
honky | 500 Hz | octave | low midrange |
nasal | 1,000 Hz | octave | midrange |
quacky | 2,000 Hz | octave | upper mid-range |
shrill | 4,000 Hz | octave | high midrange (the most annoying octave to be accented) |
spitty | 8,000 Hz | octave | high frequency Cliff demonstrates "Spitty" |
air | 16,000 Hz | octave | very high frequency |
From Kyle-at-Bose
Here are some cuts from Cliff's Spectral Identification disc. Personally, there have been a few key people here at Bose who have helped broaden my listening capabilities by teaching me how and what to listen to. Cliff is definitely one of those persons who have helped me tune my senses. I hope these tracks are as helpful to you as they were to me. In addition, also consider the audio ear training course from Dave Moulton called " Golden Ears. Although it's much more catered to the intricacies of recording music, it's very helpful in general (By the way it’s a lengthy 8 discs I think). Here goes with Cliff’s recordings...
Play Now (double-click a track to play it) | Download |
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Or download Bose_ListeningReference.exe (91 megabytes)