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Here are some notes about feedback. Rather than sending you following links, I've just put things that seemed relevant below.
 
  
== Before Anything Else ==
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== Gain Staging ==
Check your gain setup. Take 2 minutes to watch the video (click Steve's picture above). If you are using an L1™ Classic or L1™ Model I follow the instructions exactly as Steve says. For other gear, the principles are still applicable.  
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Take two minutes to watch this video by clicking on the picture below.
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* If you are using an {{Classic}} or {{Model I}} follow the instructions exactly as shown in the video.
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* If you are using the {{T1}}, the principles are the same as shown on the video: simply substitute the trim on the T1 for the trim on the Classic or Model I. {{T1 icon}}
  
 
If you are using effects, remove them from the signal chain until you can get sufficient [[Gain Before Feedback|gain before feedback]] to get performance level volume. Then add the effects back into the signal chain (one at a time) so you can be aware of the individual impacts that each effect is having on feedback.   
 
If you are using effects, remove them from the signal chain until you can get sufficient [[Gain Before Feedback|gain before feedback]] to get performance level volume. Then add the effects back into the signal chain (one at a time) so you can be aware of the individual impacts that each effect is having on feedback.   
  
== Notes from {{Bose}} ==
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{{Get Plugged In Microphone}}
=== My vocal microphone keeps encountering feedback. Is there anything I can do to stop it? ===
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== Techniques For Reducing Feedback ==
From  the Official Product Troubleshooting Page <!-- TODO fix this link --><ref>[http://www.bose.com/controller?event=VIEW_STATIC_PAGE_EVENT&url=/musicians/support/troubleshooting.jsp&ck=0#feedback  Official Product Troubleshooting Pages]</ref>.
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* If you are using vocal effects like reverb, chorus or delay, turn them off until you can get sufficient [[Gain Before Feedback|gain before feedback]] to get performance level volume. Then add the effects back into the signal chain (one at a time) so you can be aware of the individual impacts that each effect is having on feedback.
 
 
* Orient the microphone so that it is not pointing directly at your Cylindrical Radiator™ loudspeaker. It’s best when your system is not directly behind you- give greater than 5 feet distance between you and your system.
 
* Try using a “close-miking” technique to increase the gain at the microphone and to reduce unwanted stage sound.
 
* Use the HIGH tone control knob for the microphone channel carefully. Feedback could occur when this is set too high.
 
* Upgrade your power stand to newer software that offer a high gain preset. see: Software Upgrading (This covers firmware update and Version 2.0 [[Presets/Model I and Classic|Presets]])
 
* If using a vocal effects processor, make sure that it is not contributing to the feedback problem.
 
* If stand -mounting a directional microphone, tilt the microphone up ten or twenty degrees off the horizon so that it is less sensitive to direct sound from the speakers.
 
* Try a different microphone such as a directional mic. Hypercardioid microphones work well with the system.
 
 
 
=== How do I control feedback that I may get when using microphones? ===
 
From  the Official Product FAQs <ref>[http://www.bose.com/controller?event=VIEW_STATIC_PAGE_EVENT&url=/musicians/support/product_faqs.jsp&ck=0#question40 Official Product FAQs]</ref>.  
 
  
Techniques that control feedback with a conventional system help with the Personalized Amplification System™ approach also.
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* '''Get close to the microphone''' when you want to be loud. No other technique has a big an impact on feedback. Each halving of distance is approximately another 6 dB of [[Gain Before Feedback|gain before feedback]]. This relationship in physics is known as the [[Inverse Square Law]]. This means that the difference between working a microphone at 2 inches, and 1/4 inch is 18 dB, which is more than twice as loud. While good mic technique often involves "working" the microphone at different distances, singers must be mindful of the fact that small changes in distance from the mouth result in very dramatic changes in sound level.
  
* Get close to the microphone. No other technique has a big an impact on feedback. Each halving of distance is approximately another 6 dB of gain before feedback. This means that the difference between working a microphone at 2 inches, and 1/4 inch is 18dB!
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[[Image:Ferrin_eat_mic.jpg|Charlie Ferrin at Bose: Nov. 9, 2007]]
  
* Use a directional microphone. Hypercardioid is better than cardioid, which is way better than omnidirectional. All sound waves impinging on the microphone from a direction other than the intended signal is "noise" and will lower the threshold of feedback.
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* Use a directional microphone. Hypercardioid is better than cardioid, which is better than omnidirectional. All sound waves impinging on the microphone from a direction other than the intended signal is "noise" and will lower the threshold of feedback.
  
* Use as few open microphones as possible. When a microphone is not in use, turn it off.
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* Use as few open microphones as possible. When a microphone is not in use, if possible, turn it off.
  
 
* When stand mounting a directional microphone, tilt the microphone up ten or twenty degrees off the horizon so that it is less sensitive to direct sound from the speakers.
 
* When stand mounting a directional microphone, tilt the microphone up ten or twenty degrees off the horizon so that it is less sensitive to direct sound from the speakers.
  
* Use the HIGH tone control knob for the microphone channel carefully. Feedback could occur when this is set too high.
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[[Image:MicGoodBad.gif]]
  
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* Use the high-frequency tone control for the microphone channel carefully. Feedback could occur when this is set too high.
  
== Microphone on a Stand ==
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* Wherever possible, acoustic instruments should use pickups instead of microphones.  Pickup systems provide much higher [[Gain Before Feedback|gain before feedback]] than microphones. <br />Using pickup can overcome the struggle to keep a consistent and close distance between the microphone and an instrument. Also, an instrument can be a source of feedback as it resonates with the amplified sound.
Here's a sketch of setting up a microphone on stand.
 
  
[[Image:MicGoodBad.gif]]
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* Another (low priority) design guide-line could be to keep open microphones as far apart as possible. Neighboring systems with open microphones can mutually decrease gain-before-feedback
  
  
== Other general notes ==
 
  
* All players should be playing / singing through the L1™ System closest to them
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=== Techniques specific to the {{L1 family}} ===
* Every doubling of distance between the microphone and the singer reduces gain-before-feedback by a factor of 4. The difference between 1/2 inch and an inch can be significant.
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* All players should be playing / singing through the {{L1}} closest to them.
* Wherever possible "acoustic" instruments should use pickups instead of microphones.  This is important because many players find it a struggle to keep a consistent and close distance between the microphone and their instrument. Also, an instrument can be a source of feedback as it resonates with the amplified sound.
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* If you are using a {{T1}} it is often possible to use the parametric EQ section to notch the frequency that is causing feedback. You can find details in the article: [[Using the T1® to Control Microphone Feedback]]
* Another (low priority) design guide-line could be to keep open microphones as far apart as possible. Neighboring systems with open microphones can mutually decrease gain-before-feedback
 
  
  
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- [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/5711082304/us_pro_mics_for_music_sound_ea.pdf  alternate source for above]
 
- [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/5711082304/us_pro_mics_for_music_sound_ea.pdf  alternate source for above]
  
[[User:ST|ST]] 15:46, 22 August 2006 (GMT-7)
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Revision as of 15:59, 7 January 2009

Proper Gain Staging is essential to avoiding feedback. Please take 2 minutes to review this short video. Although this is based on the Classic and Model I, the principles are generally applicable. Gain setup for a vocal microphone


Gain Staging

Take two minutes to watch this video by clicking on the picture below.

  • If you are using an L1 Classic or L1 Model I follow the instructions exactly as shown in the video.
  • If you are using the T1 ToneMatch Audio Engine, the principles are the same as shown on the video: simply substitute the trim on the T1 for the trim on the Classic or Model I.

If you are using effects, remove them from the signal chain until you can get sufficient gain before feedback to get performance level volume. Then add the effects back into the signal chain (one at a time) so you can be aware of the individual impacts that each effect is having on feedback.

Gain setup for a vocal microphone

Techniques For Reducing Feedback

  • If you are using vocal effects like reverb, chorus or delay, turn them off until you can get sufficient gain before feedback to get performance level volume. Then add the effects back into the signal chain (one at a time) so you can be aware of the individual impacts that each effect is having on feedback.
  • Get close to the microphone when you want to be loud. No other technique has a big an impact on feedback. Each halving of distance is approximately another 6 dB of gain before feedback. This relationship in physics is known as the Inverse Square Law. This means that the difference between working a microphone at 2 inches, and 1/4 inch is 18 dB, which is more than twice as loud. While good mic technique often involves "working" the microphone at different distances, singers must be mindful of the fact that small changes in distance from the mouth result in very dramatic changes in sound level.

Charlie Ferrin at Bose: Nov. 9, 2007

  • Use a directional microphone. Hypercardioid is better than cardioid, which is better than omnidirectional. All sound waves impinging on the microphone from a direction other than the intended signal is "noise" and will lower the threshold of feedback.
  • Use as few open microphones as possible. When a microphone is not in use, if possible, turn it off.
  • When stand mounting a directional microphone, tilt the microphone up ten or twenty degrees off the horizon so that it is less sensitive to direct sound from the speakers.

MicGoodBad.gif

  • Use the high-frequency tone control for the microphone channel carefully. Feedback could occur when this is set too high.
  • Wherever possible, acoustic instruments should use pickups instead of microphones. Pickup systems provide much higher gain before feedback than microphones.
    Using pickup can overcome the struggle to keep a consistent and close distance between the microphone and an instrument. Also, an instrument can be a source of feedback as it resonates with the amplified sound.
  • Another (low priority) design guide-line could be to keep open microphones as far apart as possible. Neighboring systems with open microphones can mutually decrease gain-before-feedback


Techniques specific to the L1 family of products


Handling the Microphone

shure.com notes [1]


Seems like a pretty natural thing, doesn't it? But how your vocalists handle the microphone has a major effect on the resulting sound. It may look great, but your tech team won't get the sound they want when your soloist holds a microphone an arm's length from her mouth.

Why?

The first reason is the inverse square law. If you hold your mic a half-inch from your lips it receives a given amount of sound energy from your voice. Move it twice as far-one inch-and it receives one-fourth as much energy. That extra half -inch takes away three-quarters of the efficiency of your sound system. While good mic technique involves "working" the microphone, singers that fully extend their arms when reaching for that climax, are usually doing it for dramatic effect. Small changes in distance from the mouth can result in very dramatic changes in sound level.

Second: When you move the microphone away from your lips, you must turn up the microphone level at the mixer to be heard, and more unwanted sound enters the mic. When sound from a monitor speaker enters the microphone , it instantly becomes the earsplitting screech we know as feedback. Keeping the microphone close to your mouth minimizes feedback.


See the whole article: Miking Live Vocals

Other References

- alternate source for above