Instruments / Drums

Classic

L1 Model I

Here are several ways to connect your L1 Classic or L1 Model I to Drums Percussion

Presets

You will want to try the Kick Drum Presets

• 70 Kick Drum
• 71 Kick Drum, Audix D6
• 72 Kick Drum, AKG D112
• 73 Kick Drum, Sennheiser 601
• 74 Kick Drum, Shure Beta 52a
• 75 Generic Overhead
• 76 Drum Overhead, Differential SM57
• 77 Drum Overhead, Differential Electret

• 00 Flat when you are using a mixer

More Bass for the Kick Drum

If you want to add more low end consider getting a PackLite^® power amplifier model A1. You definitely want to read B1 Bass Module/Positioning.

Out-or-Phase Overheads and Kick Drum

This depicts using two Shure SM57 microphones wired Out-of-Phase. This allows you to have two microphones "overhead" taking only one Channel, leaving another Channel free for the Kick Drum.

These are not "overheads" but 57's placed below the cymbals and above the top heads of a small kit. The mics are wired out of phase, basically 2 and 3 reversed on an XLR. There's lots written about this on our forum. But the basic idea is that the pair will cancel onstage bass but pick up local instruments on the kit, in an effort to reduce rebroadcasting onstage bass from the drum mics. This way we get a stronger signal than typical overheads and cleaner bass onstage. To "mix" these, just move the mics closer to the instrument you want to emphasize. Typical setup is on either side of the snare facing the snare. Snare is everywhere and there is no need to put a mic directly on it. It's actually pretty easy to set up and adjust, moving the mics around for a good kit mix. With 3 mics and only 2 inputs on the PS1, we get a really nice amplified sound for our shows. I listened to the output of the pair recently (multitrack recordings of a recent show) and the cancelling thing really works great. Give it a try. -- see Out-of-Phase for complete notes.

Using a Mixer

If you want to have more than two or three microphones for Drums, then you can use a mixer for a submix running to one Channel on your Power Stand. Use another Channel (1 or 2) free for the Kick Drum so you can use a Preset. Although it is not shown here, you could run the mixer to Channels 3 or 4. This would leave you with Channel open for a Vocal microphone.

Electronic (V-Drums)

This is as simple as it gets. Your Drum Module controls all the sound and you take the output to one Channel on your L1™. There is no particular advantage to splitting the out the Kick Drum.

Roland HD-1

L1 Model I

Classic

T1 

Adapted from Roland HD-1 User Manual

Use a cable like this:

Source: Amazon Hosa CMP159

Percussion with Out-of-Phase Overheads

We are using the same approach for Out-of-Phase microphones as we discussed above.

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Out-of-Phase Overheads

Originally posted by Cliff-at-Bose: in Out of Phase Overheads

These are not "overheads" but 57's placed below the cymbals and above the top heads of a small kit. The mics are wired out of phase, basically 2 and 3 reversed on an XLR. There's lots written about this on our forum. But the basic idea is that the pair will cancel onstage bass but pick up local instruments on the kit, in an effort to reduce rebroadcasting onstage bass from the drum mics. This way we get a stronger signal than typical overheads and cleaner bass onstage. To "mix" these, just move the mics closer to the instrument you want to emphasize. Typical setup is on either side of the snare facing the snare. Snare is everywhere and there is no need to put a mic directly on it. It's actually pretty easy to set up and adjust, moving the mics around for a good kit mix. With 3 mics and only 2 inputs on the PS1, we get a really nice amplified sound for our shows. I listened to the output of the pair recently (multitrack recordings of a recent show) and the cancelling thing really works great. Give it a try.

Hilmar-at-Bose talks about Wiring Two SM57s with a Y cord

Here's the nerds view.

Wiring the the two mics out of phase creates essentially a "dipole". Everything that is in the middle (i.e. equal distance) between the two microphones will get equally but out-of-phase so it cancels when the two microphone signals are summed together. In essence it creates a "blind spot" for the microphones for whatever is right in the middle plane. For the drums, that's mainly the kick (as Larry pointed out) and also the drummer (when he/she is hemming and hawing, squeaking with the chair, yelling about or in general having a grand old time).

Another nice trick is to place the L1 that gets the mic signal somewhere in the middle plane of the microphones. This drastically reduces potential for feedback and unwanted regeneration. Sound sources that are significantly closer to any one of the microphones are not much affected by the whole procedure.

the original discussion ← is highly recommended.

Sources for the Cables

Hilmar-at-Bose talks about buying an out-of-phase adapter.

The Y-adapters are pretty rare, I don't think you can buy them on line. You can buy an ordinary 2-female/1-male XLR Y adapter like YMFF type

and put an XLR phase inverter on one of the female ends.

Do it yourself Phase Reversal

You can buy or make an ordinary 2-female/1-male XLR Y adapter like YMFF type

You will need to swap the wires on 2 and 3 on one of the ends that goes to a microphone.

Out of Phase Condenser Microphones - Not Recommended

Hilmar-at-Bose talks about Wiring Two Condenser microphones with a Y cord

I would NOT recommend the out-of-phase Y adapter (or any kind of Y-adapter for that matter) with condenser mics. These mics have build in preamplifiers and connecting the outputs directly will present the mics with the wrong input impedance.

Again, I would only recommend the adapter for dynamic microphones (like for example a Shure SM57). If you want to use KSM109s (which are nice microphones), you may have to use a little mini-mixer to combine the microphone signals. You can still use the XLR phase inverter on one channel to get the cancellation effect. The 109s should work for near field as well as for overhead. For near-field you might have to engage the -15 dB pad on the microphones.

Using the T1 ToneMatch Audio Engine Kick Gate

T1 ToneMatch™ Audio Engine/KickGate

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