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The following is an excerpt from [http://www.rane.com/note109.html Why Not Wye]
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;Can I connect a stereo output to a mono input on a Bose Portable PA Product?
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:There are [https://www.amazon.com/slp/stereo-to-mono-adapter/pxpkk2fgdtrd4ts cables and simple converters] that claim to do this. ''We recommend that you don't'' use them (see [[{{PAGENAME}}#Introduction|details below]] about why you shouldn't). Do one of the following:
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:*The {{Compact}} and {{S1}} have stereo inputs. Use those stereo inputs.
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:*Split the stereo signal to two mono signals and connect to two separate mono inputs <br>[[File:18TRSto2x14TS.png|200px|Hosa CMP159 Stereo Breakout, 3.5 mm TRS to Dual 1/4 in TS, 10-Feet ]]
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:*Convert the signal to mono at the source and use a simple Tip-Sleeve connector to the Bose Portable PA device. See:[[IOS Mono]], [[Android Mono]], [https://www.howtogeek.com/333367/how-to-make-your-windows-10-pc-use-mono-audio-so-you-can-wear-one-earbud/ Windows Mono]
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:*Convert the signal to mono and if the output is balanced, use a 1/4 inch (6.3 mm) Tip-Ring-Sleeve or XLR to 1/4 inch (6.3 mm) Tip-Ring-Sleeve cable
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:*Use a stereo to mono converter. Here are some examples: [http://www.radialeng.com/product/mix-21 Radial 2:1] or [https://www.amazon.com/Galaxy-Audio-JIBR-RCA-Combiner/dp/B005GJCA6M?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_8 Galazy Audio JIBR RCA Combiner] or [https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=DIY+stereo+to+mono+adapter build your own]
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Latest revision as of 19:22, 20 February 2024

Can I connect a stereo output to a mono input on a Bose Portable PA Product?
There are cables and simple converters that claim to do this. We recommend that you don't use them (see details below about why you shouldn't). Do one of the following:
  • The L1 Compact and S1 Pro System have stereo inputs. Use those stereo inputs.
  • Split the stereo signal to two mono signals and connect to two separate mono inputs
    Hosa CMP159 Stereo Breakout, 3.5 mm TRS to Dual 1/4 in TS, 10-Feet
  • Convert the signal to mono at the source and use a simple Tip-Sleeve connector to the Bose Portable PA device. See:IOS Mono, Android Mono, Windows Mono
  • Convert the signal to mono and if the output is balanced, use a 1/4 inch (6.3 mm) Tip-Ring-Sleeve or XLR to 1/4 inch (6.3 mm) Tip-Ring-Sleeve cable
  • Use a stereo to mono converter. Here are some examples: Radial 2:1 or Galazy Audio JIBR RCA Combiner or build your own

The following is an excerpt from Why Not Wye

Introduction

Wye-connectors (or "Y"-connectors, if you prefer) should never have been created.

Anything that can be hooked-up wrong, will be. You-know-who said that, and she was right. A wye-connector used to split a signal into two lines is being used properly; a wye-connector used to mix two signals into one is being abused and may even damage the equipment involved.

Here is the rule: Outputs are low impedance and must only be connected to high impedance inputs -- never, never tie two outputs directly together -- never. If you do, then each output tries to drive the very low impedance of the other, forcing both outputs into current-limit and possible damage. As a minimum, severe signal loss results.


Subwoofers
Monoing Your Low End

One of the most common examples of tying two outputs together is in "monoing" the low end of multiway active crossover systems. This combined signal is then used to drive a sub-woofer system.

Since low frequencies below about 100Hz have such long wavelengths (several feet), it is very difficult to tell where they are coming from (like some of your friends). They are just there -- everywhere. Due to this phenomenon, a single sub-woofer system is a popular cost-effective way to add low frequency energy to small systems.

So the question arises as how best to do the monoing, or summing, of the two signals? It is done very easily by tying the two low frequency outputs of your crossovers together using the resistive networks described below. You do not do it with a wye-cord.


Download the full article: Why Not Wye.pdf

Compact

Here is the rule: Outputs are low impedance and must only be connected to high impedance inputs -- never, never tie two outputs directly together -- never. If you do, then each output tries to drive the very low impedance of the other, forcing both outputs into current-limit and possible damage. As a minimum, severe signal loss results.

  • If your source has RCA outputs, use a standard RCA-RCA cable to connect to Compact Channel 2 RCA inputs.
  • If your source has a 1/8" stereo output, use a 1/8" Tip-Ring-Sleeve cable to connect to the Compact Channel 2 1/8" input.


TRSfromStereoRCACompact2.png

TRSfromStereo14Compact2.png

S1 Pro system

Here is the rule: Outputs are low impedance and must only be connected to high impedance inputs -- never, never tie two outputs directly together -- never. If you do, then each output tries to drive the very low impedance of the other, forcing both outputs into current-limit and possible damage. As a minimum, severe signal loss results.

  • If your source has RCA outputs, use a standard RCA to 1/8 inch Tip-Ring-Sleeve
  • If your source has a 1/8" stereo output, use a 1/8" Tip-Ring-Sleeve cable to connect to the S1 Pro Aux 1/8" input.


TRSfromStereoRCAS1Pro.png

TRSfromStereo14S1Pro.png

Model 1S

Here is the rule: Outputs are low impedance and must only be connected to high impedance inputs -- never, never tie two outputs directly together -- never. If you do, then each output tries to drive the very low impedance of the other, forcing both outputs into current-limit and possible damage. As a minimum, severe signal loss results.

TRSfromStereoRCAModel1S.png

TRSfromStereo14Model1S.png

Model II

Here is the rule: Outputs are low impedance and must only be connected to high impedance inputs -- never, never tie two outputs directly together -- never. If you do, then each output tries to drive the very low impedance of the other, forcing both outputs into current-limit and possible damage. As a minimum, severe signal loss results.

TRSfromStereoRCAModelII.png

TRSfromStereo14ModelII.png

T1 ToneMatch® Audio Engine

Here is the rule: Outputs are low impedance and must only be connected to high impedance inputs -- never, never tie two outputs directly together -- never. If you do, then each output tries to drive the very low impedance of the other, forcing both outputs into current-limit and possible damage. As a minimum, severe signal loss results.

TRSfromStereoRCAT1.png

TRSfromStereo14T1.png

18trsto14trsT1.png


T4S/T8S ToneMatch Mixers

Here is the rule: Outputs are low impedance and must only be connected to high impedance inputs -- never, never tie two outputs directly together -- never. If you do, then each output tries to drive the very low impedance of the other, forcing both outputs into current-limit and possible damage. As a minimum, severe signal loss results.

TRSfromStereoRCAT4ST8S.png

TRSfromStereo14T4ST8S.png

18trsto14trsT4ST8S.png