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If you don't plug in a B1 and connect a powered sub to the bass line out, the cross over will be at 180 Hz and the "Bass Line Out" will deliver a flat 40Hz to 180 Hz signal. The 110 Hz is only used when there is no B1 AND nothing connected to the "Bass Line Out". In this case we assume that the L1s have to provide full bandwidth to the besy of their ability.
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The only way to find out whether 4 B1s or 1 SRS1500 is louder is to put them up side by side and measure them (which we haven't done yet). MAX SPL specifications are notoriously unreliable and depend heavily on the exact measurement method so unfortunately we can't use them to compare. My guess is that given size and weight the SRS1500 should be a little louder than 4 B1 bass modules.
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Revision as of 10:51, 13 June 2011

Usage:

 {{Bass Line Out
 |icons={{Classic icon}} (or other icons as required)
 |panelImage= image to display showing connections   
       [[Image:ModelIBassOutputs.png|Model I right side Input/Output panel]] or [[Image:ModelIIBassOutputs.png|Model II Bass Outputs]]
 |Crossover=180 (or 200 for Model II)
 }}


Model II Bass Outputs



The behavior of the bass line out and B1 Bass Module outputs on the L1 Classic / L1 Model I / L1 Model II are based on the philosophy that adding B1 Bass Modules should give the user more dynamic range (can play louder) but should not alter the tone of the instrument, including tone adjustments made using the R1 Remote, the T1 ToneMatch Audio Engine or other tone-shaping equipment.

This philosophy is notably different from other manufacturers, who take the approach that it's okay (or desirable) that adding more bass speakers causes the instrument tone to become "bassier".

With this philosophy in mind, here is how the bass line out and B1 outputs work.

No cable plugged into the Bass Line out

B1s connected OutputEQ Bass Signal Gain Notes
1 40Hz-180Hz B1 specific EQ Reference Level
2 40Hz-180Hz B1 specific EQ Reference Level -6 dB Why? Because when you add a second B1, if you did not change the signal strength you would get 6 dB more bass relative to the mids and highs. This would alter the tone of the instrument. To keep the tone the same, while still allowing the more dynamic range (system can play louder by 6 dB) the signal level must be reduced by 6 dB.


Cable connected to the Bass Line Out

B1s connected OutputEQ Bass Signal Gain Notes
0 40Hz-180Hz Flat EQ Reference Level -6 dB
1 40Hz-180Hz B1 specific EQ on Bass Line Out and B1 Out Reference Level - 6 dB If you are using a PackLite® power amplifier model A1 Extended Bass Package this is a total of 3 B1s (2 on the A1 and 1 on the Power Stand)
2 40Hz-180Hz B1 specific EQ on Bass Line Out and B1 Out Reference Level -12 dB If you are using a PackLite® power amplifier model A1 Extended Bass Package this is a total of 4 B1s (2 on the A1 and 4 on the Power Stand)

With More Than 4 B1s

The Power Stand does not measure the exact number of PackLite® power amplifier model A1s, so there is a slight error if you use anything but 1,2, or 4 B1s.

For 6 B1s you will be 3.5 dB bass heavy, for 8 B1s it'll be 6 dB heavy.

Bass Module Output (powered output)

For the sake of those attaching third party passive speakers (an unsupported application).

Output if no B1 Bass Modules detected

  • 40-180 Hz Bandpass (that is: NO B1 EQ)
  • The crossover is unchanged (180 Hz for the Classic or Model I and 200 Hz for the Model II)

If one or two B1 Bass Modules detected (or resistors used across NL4 2+ / 2- pins to emulate detection)

  • 40-180 Hz with different EQ curves

For details on how to do this see: Activating B1 EQ Curves and Using a Different Sub




Original Source - Hilmar-at-Bose