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There are already some recording results done by Clifford Henricksen. He made some live recordings of his band ([http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=8BSmgv3WI40 The Cliff Henricksen Band]). Check them out [[Clifford Henricksen / New Kind of Recording|Just a Heartbeat Away]]. He recorded his band with two microphones, and the result was great. But I wanted to record in another way. My goal was to find out what kind of results you get from using the auxiliary outputs of the {{T1}} [[T1 ToneMatch® Audio Engine / Aux|Auxiliary out]].
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At the [[Salon de la Musique Paris 2008]] (Paris fair of 2008)<ref>Pictures originally posted in [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/147107565/m/6381085265 Salon de la Musique Paris 2008 Pictures])</ref>
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=== Hardware ===
 
We had 4 {{Model II}}s hooked up to 4 {{T1}}s.
 
We had 4 {{Model II}}s hooked up to 4 {{T1}}s.
  
 
[[Image:WVRecordingWithT1AuxTMConnections.gif|ToneMatch connections for performance.]]
 
[[Image:WVRecordingWithT1AuxTMConnections.gif|ToneMatch connections for performance.]]
  
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=== {{t1r}} Settings ===
 
Next I enabled the T1® auxiliary output. For the vocal (channel I) put it on 75%.
 
Next I enabled the T1® auxiliary output. For the vocal (channel I) put it on 75%.
  
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This gave a reasonable mix between the instruments and the vocals.  
 
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The four outputs were hooked up to a Mackie Mixer and I mixed the 4 sources to the stereo output with the help of a Headphone (Bose QC2) and a computer to record.  
 
The four outputs were hooked up to a Mackie Mixer and I mixed the 4 sources to the stereo output with the help of a Headphone (Bose QC2) and a computer to record.  
  
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Some of the recordings (Gibson’s) we gave a second Studio Treatment (Compressing and Enhancing). Most of the others are not treated. Although the fact that these recordings are made on the fair with all of the ambient noise (a lot!), you can hardly hear it. On the other side, I’m missing the real live feeling. I think a combination of recording between two ambient mic’s and the auxiliary output will do the trick in the future.  
 
Some of the recordings (Gibson’s) we gave a second Studio Treatment (Compressing and Enhancing). Most of the others are not treated. Although the fact that these recordings are made on the fair with all of the ambient noise (a lot!), you can hardly hear it. On the other side, I’m missing the real live feeling. I think a combination of recording between two ambient mic’s and the auxiliary output will do the trick in the future.  
  
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== Recordings ==
 
I think that these recordings give an idea of what one could do with a multi-track recorder and two extra ambient mikes. Hopefully I will be able to make such a recording next time and share it with you.
 
I think that these recordings give an idea of what one could do with a multi-track recorder and two extra ambient mikes. Hopefully I will be able to make such a recording next time and share it with you.
  
 
Comments on the recordings:
 
Comments on the recordings:
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Latest revision as of 03:23, 26 March 2017


This is a technical article that documents the experiences of Wiek-at-Bose-Europe the author.
Please post comments in the discussion page. Thank you.

{{#Click:Salon de la Musique Paris 2008|Image:WVSalondelaMusiqueParis2008.gif|200px|Wiek-at-Bose-Europe at the Salon de la Musique Paris 2008}}


Live recording using T1 ToneMatch Audio Engine Auxiliary out.

Introduction

There are already some recording results done by Clifford Henricksen. He made some live recordings of his band (The Cliff Henricksen Band). Check them out Just a Heartbeat Away. He recorded his band with two microphones, and the result was great. But I wanted to record in another way. My goal was to find out what kind of results you get from using the auxiliary outputs of the T1 ToneMatch Audio Engine Auxiliary out.

Recording direct from T1® Aux Outputs

What I did:

At the Salon de la Musique Paris 2008 (Paris fair of 2008)[1]


Hardware

We had 4 L1 Model IIs hooked up to 4 T1 ToneMatch Audio Engines.

ToneMatch connections for performance.

T1® Settings

Next I enabled the T1® auxiliary output. For the vocal (channel I) put it on 75%.

WVT1Picture 1.png

and the instruments (channel II) I put on 50%.

WVT1Picture 2.png

This gave a reasonable mix between the instruments and the vocals.

T1® Connections for Recording

The four outputs were hooked up to a Mackie Mixer and I mixed the 4 sources to the stereo output with the help of a Headphone (Bose QC2) and a computer to record.

Connections for recording.

WVT1Picture 3.png

The recording program was Audacity, and the recordings were made over a 4 days period.

Some of the recordings (Gibson’s) we gave a second Studio Treatment (Compressing and Enhancing). Most of the others are not treated. Although the fact that these recordings are made on the fair with all of the ambient noise (a lot!), you can hardly hear it. On the other side, I’m missing the real live feeling. I think a combination of recording between two ambient mic’s and the auxiliary output will do the trick in the future.

Recordings

I think that these recordings give an idea of what one could do with a multi-track recorder and two extra ambient mikes. Hopefully I will be able to make such a recording next time and share it with you.

Comments on the recordings:

Hohner Two mikes Shure sm 58 connected to two systems.

Zimboom 1

zimboom website

The 4 systems from left to right. a Solo Guitar and Vocal. (Slightly panned to the left)

b Bass and Vocal. (Panned in the middle)

c Electronic Drums and Vocal. (Panned in the middle)

d Rhythm Guitar and Vocal. (Slightly panned to the right)

Zimboom 2

See Zimboom 1 and compressed in post production.

Zimboom 3

See Zimboom 1 and compressed in post production.

Taylor

One great player on one system. {{#click:Brian Swerdfeger Interview|Image:BrianSwerdfeger.png|50px|Brian Swerdfeger of Taylor Guitar}}

All blues

See 1 with acoustic guitars.

Jam

See Zimboom 1 and extra Alt sax on output c.
Gibson 1 with some postproduction.
Gibson 2 with some postproduction.
Gibson 3 with some postproduction.



  1. ↑ Pictures originally posted in Salon de la Musique Paris 2008 Pictures)
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