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== Current Models ==
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== Comparisons of Current Models ==
  
 
{{L1® Family Comparisons}}
 
{{L1® Family Comparisons}}
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* [[Bose L1 Pro8 Compared to L1 Compact]]
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* [[Bose L1 Pro8 Compared to L1 Pro16]]
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* [[Bose L1 Pro16 Compared to L1 Pro32]]
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* [[Bose S1 Pro Compared to Bose L1® Compact]]
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=== Legacy to L1 Pro Models ===
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* [[Bose L1 Pro8 Compared to L1 Compact|Bose L1 Compact Compared to L1 Pro8]]
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* [[Bose L1 Model 1S Compared to L1 Pro16]]
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* [[Bose L1 Model II Compared to L1 Pro32]]
  
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=== Model 1S vs Model II ===
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* [[{{PAGENAME}}#Comparisons of Older Models|Older Models]]
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==== Cylindrical Radiator&reg;s ====
 
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* Top sections are physically identical (same dimensions).
 
  
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Note: The actual model designation is on the label on the back channel.  
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[[Throw Over Distance]] a comparison of all models.
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* Top array 39.63” H x 4.15” W x 4.13” D  (100.6 cm x 10.6 cm x 10.5 cm)
 
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** Model 1S has silver background
 
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** Model II has black background
 
  
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* Lower sections are physically different (same dimensions).  
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== What Model Do I Have? ==
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** Model 1S is approximately 39.63” H x 4.15” W x 4.13” D  (100.6 cm x 10.6 cm x 10.5 cm)
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{{Different Models}}
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** Model II is approximately 43.5” H x 4.15” W x 4.13” D (111.0  mm x 9.0 cm x 10.5 cm)
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== Throw Over Distance ==
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{{:Throw Over Distance}}
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== Model 1S and Model II ==
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==== Power Stands ====
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[[Image:Model 1S Model II Power Stands.png]]
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==== Model 1S Model II Cylindrical Radiators ====
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{{:Model 1S Model II Cylindrical Radiators}}
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==== Vertical Dispersion ====
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[[L1 Model 1S Compared to L1 Model II Vertical Dispersion]]
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==== Discussions ====
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[[Media:Difference in capacity from Two Bose L1 model 1S vs One L1 Model 2_ _ Bose Portable PA _ Bose Pro.pdf|Difference in capacity from Two Bose L1 model 1S vs One L1 Model II_ _ Bose Portable PA _ Bose Pro]]
  
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===== Questions =====
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[[Media:L1 Model 1S Versus a Model II, both with 1 B2 _ Bose Portable PA _ Bose Pro.pdf|L1 Model 1S Versus a Model II, both with 1 B2 _ Bose Portable PA _ Bose Pro]]
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Q: Can I use the Model 1S lower extension (no drivers) in the Model II with the Model II Cylindrical Radiator&reg; top section? 
 
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:A: No. No sound will come out from the top section.
 
  
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== Older Comparisons ==
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==Comparisons of Older Models==
 
* [[Media:L1 Portable Line Array Systems Comparison Guide.pdf|L1® Portable Line Array Systems Quick Product Comparison Guide]] Compact / Model I / Model II  2009
 
* [[Media:L1 Portable Line Array Systems Comparison Guide.pdf|L1® Portable Line Array Systems Quick Product Comparison Guide]] Compact / Model I / Model II  2009
 
* [[L1® Model Comparison / Physical|Compact : Classic/Model I : Model II]]  
 
* [[L1® Model Comparison / Physical|Compact : Classic/Model I : Model II]]  
 
* [[Model I and Model II Comparison / Stage Monitoring Experience|Classic/Model I compared to Model II - stage monitoring]]
 
* [[Model I and Model II Comparison / Stage Monitoring Experience|Classic/Model I compared to Model II - stage monitoring]]
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== What Model Do I Have? ==
 
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{{Different Models}}
 
  
 
== What Can I Use with What? ==
 
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== System Heights ==
 
== System Heights ==
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{{L1® Family Heights}}
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{{System Heights}}
  
 
== System Weights ==
 
== System Weights ==
 
The following are arranged from lightest to heaviest.
 
The following are arranged from lightest to heaviest.
 
=== {{Compact}} ===
 
=== {{Compact}} ===
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* The total assembled system weight 29.2 lb (13.3 kg)
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The total assembled system weight 29.2 lb (13.3 kg)
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=== L1 Pro8 ===
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The total assembled system weight 39.8 lb (18.0 kg)
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=== {{F1}} ===
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{{#lst:F1 Model 812 Flexible Array Loudspeaker|F1 Weight}}
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=== L1 Pro16 ===
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The total assembled system weight 54.8 lb (24.8 kg)
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=== L1 Pro32 ===
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Power Stand 28.7 lb (13 kg)
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The total assembled system weight with Sub1 64.1 lb (29.1 kg)
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The total assembled system weight with Sub2 79.3 lb (36.4 kg)
  
 
=== {{Model 1S}} ===
 
=== {{Model 1S}} ===
 
<section begin=Model 1S Weight />
 
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* The total assembled system weight with the B1 bass module  &nbsp;76 lb (34.4 kg).
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The total assembled system weight with the B1 bass module  &nbsp;76 lb (34.4 kg).
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* The total assembled system weight with the B2 bass module  &nbsp;94 lb (42.6 kg).
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The total assembled system weight with the B2 bass module  &nbsp;94 lb (42.6 kg).
 
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==={{Model II}} ===  
 
==={{Model II}} ===  
 
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* The total assembled system weight with the B1 bass module  &nbsp;84 lb (38.10 kg).
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The total assembled system weight with the B1 bass module  &nbsp;84 lb (38.10 kg).
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* The total assembled system weight with the B2 bass module  102 lb (46.2 kg).
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The total assembled system weight with the B2 bass module  102 lb (46.2 kg).
 
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=== {{Classic}}  ===
 
=== {{Classic}}  ===
 
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* The total assembled system weight with the B1 bass module  &nbsp;94 lb (42.6 kg)
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The total assembled system weight with the B1 bass module  &nbsp;94 lb (42.6 kg)
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* The total assembled system weight with two B1 bass module  122 lb (55.3 kg)
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** Note - the early B1 weighed 28 pounds
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The total assembled system weight with two B1 bass module  122 lb (55.3 kg)
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* Note - the early B1 weighed 28 pounds
 
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=== {{Model I}}  ===
 
=== {{Model I}}  ===
 
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* The total assembled system weight with the B1 bass module  &nbsp;97 lb (43.00 kg)
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* The total assembled system weight with two B1 bass module  123 lb (55.8 kg)
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The total assembled system weight with the B1 bass module  &nbsp;97 lb (43.00 kg)
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The total assembled system weight with two B1 bass module  123 lb (55.8 kg)
 
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=== Bass Modules ===
 
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* B1 bass module: 25.1 lb (11.4 kg)<ref>B1 bass module weight 25.1 [[Media:M1S ENGLISH ONLY.pdf|L1® Model 1S System Owner's Guide]]</ref>
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B1 bass module: 25.1 lb (11.4 kg)<ref>B1 bass module weight 25.1 [[Media:M1S ENGLISH ONLY.pdf|L1® Model 1S System Owner's Guide]]</ref>
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** Early version was 28 lb <ref>B1 bass module weight 25.1 [[B1#B1_New.2FOld|B1 - New/Old]] </ref>
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* Early version was 28 lb <ref>B1 bass module weight 25.1 [[B1#B1_New.2FOld|B1 - New/Old]] </ref>
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* B2 bass module: 45 lb (20.41 kg)
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B2 bass module: 45 lb (20.41 kg)
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=== Subwoofers ===
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Sub1 34.1 lb (16.1 kg)
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Sub2 50.7 lb (23.4 kg)
  
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F1 Subwoofer 57 lb (25.9 kg)
  
 
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Latest revision as of 15:26, 23 September 2023

Comparisons of Current Models

Legacy to L1 Pro Models

Throw Over Distance a comparison of all models.

What Model Do I Have?

How to Tell the Difference Between Bose Portable PA Models

This is how to tell which L1®, S1 Pro, or F1 unit you have.

 
2023 - Present S1 Pro+ (optional wireless transmitters), Remote Control and ToneMatch Presets with Bose App
2020 - Present L1 Pro8, L1 Pro16, L1 Pro32, Remote Control and ToneMatch Presets with Bose App
2020 - Present Sub module for L1 Pro32
2018 - Present 4 channel ToneMatch Mixer (stereo)
2018 - Present 8 channel ToneMatch Mixer (stereo)
2015 - Present Flexible Array Loudspeaker and Subwoofer
2003 - 2007 Classic30.pngRounded front. The Output Panel has Amp1 Out, Amp2 Out, Amp3 Out
2003 - 2020 B1 Bass ModuleUp to two per Power Stand (above). More if using the PackLite® power amplifier model A1. 2 x 5.25" drivers, 26.6 lb
2005 - 2020  Allows bass expansion for L1 Classic L1 Model I L1 Model II (not L1 Compact not L1 Model 1S)
2007 - 2012 ModelI30.pngRounded front. The Output Panel has no outputs for Amp1, Amp2, Amp3.
The Output Panel and L1 Cylindrical Radiator® loudspeaker sections have orange L1® markers.
2007 - 2020 MII32.pngExtending legs, two Cylindrical Radiator®s, Bass Line Out,
2007 - 2018 T1® ToneMatch Audio EngineT1 ToneMatch Audio Engine
2009 - 2021 L1® CompactIntegrated Power Stand and Bass Unit, two Extensions
2012 - 2020 MII32.pngExtending legs, one Cylindrical Radiator® (Top Array), Bottom Extension
2012 - 2020 B2 Bass ModuleUp to one per Power Stand (above). More if using the PackLite® power amplifier model A1. 2 x 10" drivers 45 lb. Three position Bass Level switch.
2018 - 2023 Extremely Portable PA Battery powered


Throw Over Distance

Summary

These are projections and estimates based on previously published data from Bose.
Assumptions:

  • All values are calculated at 2 kHz
  • S1 Pro, L1 Compact, L1 Pro8, F1 Model 812 have a critical distance[1] of 0 meters/feet[2]
  • L1 Model 1S and L1 Pro16 have a critical distance[1] of approximately 3 meters (10 feet)[2]
  • L1 Model II and L1 Pro32 have a critical distance[1] of approximately 10 meters (33 feet)[2]

Comments and discussion at Twitter @ST_Muso or LinkedIn STPro

L1 Pro Throw Over Distance

This is the chart used to estimate critical distance and drop-off over distance. The source is 13:25 Which L1 Pro Portable System is Right for You?

Throw Over Distance

L1 Pro Compared to L1 Legacy

Assuming that all systems are run at their rated maximum outputs:

  • L1 Pro8 will be +6 dB SPL higher than the L1 Compact at any distance
  • L1 Model 1S will be +3 dB SPL higher than the L1 Pro8 at any distance
  • L1 Pro16 will be +6 dB SPL higher than the L1 Model 1S (beyond 2 meters)
  • L1 Model II will be +3 dB SPL higher than the L1 Pro16 (beyond 4 meters)
  • L1 Pro32 will be +7 to +10 dB SPL higher than the L1 Pro16 (beyond 4 meters)
  • L1 Pro32 will be +7 dB SPL higher than the L1 Model II at any distance

The table below is adapted from the chart from Bose[2] and previously published data.

Throw Over Distance L1 Pro vs. L1 Legacy


All Models

Assuming that all systems are run at their rated maximum outputs:

  • L1 Compact will be +6 dB SPL higher than the S1 Pro at any distance
  • L1 Pro8 will be +6 dB SPL higher than the L1 Compact at any distance
  • L1 Model 1S will be +3 dB SPL higher than the L1 Pro8 at any distance
  • L1 Pro16 will be +6 dB SPL higher than the L1 Model 1S (beyond 2 meters)
  • L1 Model II will be +3 dB SPL higher than the L1 Pro16 (beyond 4 meters)
  • L1 Pro32 will be +7 dB SPL higher than the L1 Model II at any distance
  • F1 812 is +4 dB SPL higher than the L1 Pro32 but the drop-off over distance is greater. The result: Beyond 6 meters (20 feet) the L1 Pro32 has higher SPL.

The table below is adapted from the chart from Bose[2] and previously published data.

Throw Over Distance All Models



Model 1S and Model II

Power Stands

Model 1S Model II Power Stands.png

Model 1S Model II Cylindrical Radiators

Top Section

Top sections are physically identical (same dimensions).

Note: The actual model designation is on the label on the back channel.

  • Top array 39.63” H x 4.15” W x 4.13” D (100.6 cm x 10.6 cm x 10.5 cm)
    • Model 1S has silver background
    • Model II has black background

Model 1s Model II CR02.jpg

Lower Section

Lower sections are physically different (Model 1S is 3.9" shorter).

    • Model 1S is approximately 39.63” H x 4.15” W x 4.13” D (100.6 cm x 10.6 cm x 10.5 cm)
    • Model II is approximately 43.5” H x 4.15” W x 4.13” D (111.0 mm x 9.0 cm x 10.5 cm)
Close up view of the ends (Model 1S on top, Model II below)

Model 1s Model II CR01.jpg

Top caps are identical

Model 1s Model II CR03.jpg

Questions

Q: Can I use the Model 1S lower extension (no drivers) in the Model II with the Model II Cylindrical Radiator® top section?

A: No. No sound will come out from the top section.


Vertical Dispersion

L1 Model 1S Compared to L1 Model II Vertical Dispersion

Discussions

Difference in capacity from Two Bose L1 model 1S vs One L1 Model II_ _ Bose Portable PA _ Bose Pro

L1 Model 1S Versus a Model II, both with 1 B2 _ Bose Portable PA _ Bose Pro

Comparisons of Older Models

What Can I Use with What?

This Page Reviewed By Bose

Cylindrical Radiator®s

Cylindrical Radiator®
Cylindrical Radiator®s are not interchangeable across models

Specifically (and without exception)

T1 ToneMatch® Audio Engine, T4S/T8S ToneMatch® Mixers

T1 This information is applicable to the T1 ToneMatch® audio engine
T4S This information is applicable to the T4S ToneMatch® mixer
T8S This information is applicable to the T8S ToneMatch® mixer

PackLite® power amplifier Model A1

A1 PackLite AmpThis information is applicable to the PackLite® A1 Power Amplifier

B1 Bass Module

B1 Bass ModuleThis information is applicable to the B1 Bass Module

B2 Bass Module

B2 Bass ModuleThis information is applicable to the B2 Bass Module


System Heights

System Heights - shortest to longest

Model Height Inches Height mm
Compact (collapsed) 16.5"   418 mm
F1 Model 812 26.5"   665 mm
F1 Subwoofer 27.0"   688 mm
F1 system stack 73.5" 1868 mm
Compact 78.5" 1995 mm
L1 Pro8 78.9" 2005 mm longest section 36" Cylindrical Radiator case length 37"
L1 Pro16 79.2" 2012 mm longest section 42.75" Cylindrical Radiator case length 45.5"
Model 1S 79.4" 2018 mm
Model I / Classic 82.75" 2074 mm
Model II 84.0" 2134 mm longest section 44" Cylindrical Radiator case length 45"
L1 Pro32 84.1" 2135 mm longest section 44" Cylindrical Radiator case length 45.5"


System Weights

The following are arranged from lightest to heaviest.

L1 Compact

The total assembled system weight 29.2 lb (13.3 kg)

L1 Pro8

The total assembled system weight 39.8 lb (18.0 kg)

F1 Model 812 Flexible Array Loudspeaker

F1 Model 812 loudspeaker: 44.5 lbs (20.18 kg)

F1 system stack: 99.5 lbs (45.7 kg)


L1 Pro16

The total assembled system weight 54.8 lb (24.8 kg)

L1 Pro32

Power Stand 28.7 lb (13 kg)

The total assembled system weight with Sub1 64.1 lb (29.1 kg)

The total assembled system weight with Sub2 79.3 lb (36.4 kg)

L1 Model 1S

The total assembled system weight with the B1 bass module  76 lb (34.4 kg).

The total assembled system weight with the B2 bass module  94 lb (42.6 kg).


L1 Model II

The total assembled system weight with the B1 bass module  84 lb (38.10 kg).

The total assembled system weight with the B2 bass module 102 lb (46.2 kg).


L1 Classic

The total assembled system weight with the B1 bass module  94 lb (42.6 kg)

The total assembled system weight with two B1 bass module 122 lb (55.3 kg)

  • Note - the early B1 weighed 28 pounds


L1 Model I


The total assembled system weight with the B1 bass module  97 lb (43.00 kg)

The total assembled system weight with two B1 bass module 123 lb (55.8 kg)


Bass Modules

B1 bass module: 25.1 lb (11.4 kg)[3]

  • Early version was 28 lb [4]

B2 bass module: 45 lb (20.41 kg)

Subwoofers

Sub1 34.1 lb (16.1 kg)

Sub2 50.7 lb (23.4 kg)

F1 Subwoofer 57 lb (25.9 kg)

  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 Distance at which the loudspeaker behaves as a point-source with drop-off over distance of -6 dB SPL for every doubling of distance
  2. ↑ 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 Critical distances for L1 Pro8/Pro16/Pro32 Source: 13:25 Which L1 Pro Portable System is Right for You?
  3. ↑ B1 bass module weight 25.1 L1® Model 1S System Owner's Guide
  4. ↑ B1 bass module weight 25.1 B1 - New/Old
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