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== Can I use the {{L1}} as a [[PA]] ==
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The short answer is yes! This question comes up frequently in various forms in the discussion here. While Bose recommends one system per performer, this doesn't mean that the system can't be run as a conventional [[PA]]. I've done it on the road to getting to the ideal, and while having more systems is better you can  get great sound running several inputs into a mixer into a Bose system.
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== One {{L1}} with a [[Mixer]] ==
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Depending on the size of the venue, type of music you are playing and the ambient noise level, you can run a single system with a mixer. It will sound better than most conventional systems.   
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Scan through the messages in the {{Forum}} and you will find many postings from performers (solo, duos, with and without backing tracks as well as ensembles for four and more).
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* For the Performers: Greater separation of the voicings means better monitoring. It is more likely that an individual performer will be able to hear his/her contribution to the mix when there are fewer ''voices'' in the mix ({{L1}} closest to him/her.
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* Because of the near 170&deg; horizontal dispersion with the {{L1}} you don't get a lot more coverage from two {{L1}}s as compared to one. You may get a better sense of [[Localization Spaciousness Reverberation|spaciousness]]. 
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You want to run the signal for each input into the system closest to it.
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It sounds simple, and it is. The net result is that everyone in the room, regardless of their position gets great sound, and a reasonable correlation between what they see and hear. This is [[Localization]]
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You will get a much better sense of sight and sound correlation with a system for every player, but until you get to that point, this will work.
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The coloured controls on the mixer are the pan pots. Shown here, the four on the left are panned hard left, and the four on the right are panned hard right.
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=== Avoid: Dual Mono ===
 
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Quoting Cliff-at-Bose
 
This particular setup is deeply ingrained in the amplified music culture as the Way We All Do Things, i.e., a PA is always set up on either side of the artists{s}, always has been. That's how we do it. Actually, this approach works better with a typical [[FOH]] system as everyone in the audience is much more aware of the system they are closer to (it's louder), due to the ubiquitous inverse-square law of sound radiation (loud up close, quiet far away). And, of course, the problems associated with this approach are discussed in endless detail throughout this forum (bleeding ears, disconnected sight/sound of the performance, nobody onstage knows how they sound in the audience, etc).
 
  
Our system has such a gradual change in sound pressure with distance that a pair of systems are clearly and more equally heard way off-axis. This is the quality that gives a pair of L1's such a wide stereo image "sweet spot". It's also a quality that leads to bad dual-mono. In a dual-mono setup where, say, the vocal is center-panned, if you are off-axis, you might hear both systems equally in level, but they will arrive at your ears at different times, corresponding to the difference in distances between the straight-line paths of the two L1's. At a half-wavelength path difference, you will get a complete cancellation where you are listening and above this frequency, you will get, alternatively, reinforcement, then cancellation and so on as frequency goes higher. You will also get a horizontal polar pattern that starts to look like one of those cartoon-character gloves. These are called "lobes" or "fingering" and the higher you go in frequency, more lobes (or fingers) will show up. And so, as you walk in an arc around the pair, you will hear sound get loud, soft, loud, soft and so on. In contrast, a single L1 has an almost perfect, arc-like polar pattern throughout most of its range.
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As an example, if the path difference between L1's is a foot where you are standing, you will start the lobey behaviour at the half-wave of a 2 foot wavelength frequency, or ~500 Hz. Way way above this frequency (like 5000 Hz, or upper midrange), the lobes and interference cancellations are so dense that it almost sounds like music. This behaviour sets up two very unpleasant qualities that are easy to hear. One is that off-axis, sound will get duller and more indistinct (blurry or vague) the more you move in this direction. Right up the middle it's fine, where the path differences are negligible. The other thing this sets up is an unpredictable feedback-producing sound field due to all the lobes. Depending on where your microphone is, you might have a lot of feedback at some frequencies and none at others. If you move only a little bit, you'll get feedback and no-feedback at a totally different frequencies. All in all, a dual-mono system might give you a little more level, but not everywhere. It isn't pretty.
 
  
This is why one system always sounds better everywhere than two. And so two independent systems is best for two separate performers. Because they are not related ("incoherent" or harmonically unrelated), they can't interfere with each other and you hear the separation and individual localization everywhere. Interestingly, the idea to use a microphone and pickup, both on the same instrument (guitar), might be good. They will be harmonically related in some way. I never heard of this being done but it would be worth a try in wide stereo. Might be Monster, might be Munster. Go try.
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Note from [[User:Chris-at-Bose]]: If you do run dual mono, maintain at least 20 feet (6 metres) between the {{L1}}s. See: [[Phase Cancellation]]
 
  
=== Avoid: Virtual Position by Panning ===
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I thought I was being clever by trying to position everyone in the mix using the pan pots. Notice the indicators on the mixer.
 
  
Cliff-at-Bose reminded me:
 
  
Dual mono means the same signal coming out of two sources, so anything panned up the middle is dual mono. Good for the audience up the middle, "not that great" for those off-axis. Unfortunately, our system is worse at this than an inverse-square-law system. Better to pan hard left and right. Make sense?
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When I pressed the point about  virtual positioning...
 
  
Virtual placement will vary all over the audience. Again, great up the middle, gets worse as you get more off axis. You should try all this yourself with some simple recordings (like solo voice, solo guitar, etc) off a multitrack and walk around the room. This will not show up big in a small room (like in a studio control room). But in a place you might play it will.
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Don't take my word for this. Go do it and then you can speak with a True Knowledge, only gained by being there, doing that.
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Note from [[User:Chris-at-Bose]]: If you do run dual mono, maintain at least 20 feet (6 metres) between the {{L1}}s. See: [[Phase Cancellation]]
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Bose L1® Model II


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Release Date: 2007-03-29
Height: 84 inches
Weight: 84 pounds (includes B1)
Power Stand Depth:27.2 inches
Power Stand Width:26 inches
Description: FAQ, documentation, hints and tips for owners of the L1® Model II
Description:

Key Features

  • High-performing, powered, portable two-way loudspeaker system with a 195° H x 0° V nominal dispersion designed for the production and reproduction of live music, music playback, speeches and A/V sound reproduction

  • 24-driver articulated line array loudspeaker technology produces wide, uniform sound coverage throughout the entire listening area—even off to the extreme sides

  • Consistent front-to-back coverage, 24 drivers mounted in a vertical line array produce little drop in sound pressure level per doubling in distance than a conventional point source

  • Retractable folding leg mechanism for easy transport

  • Lightweight, interlocking components

  • Expandable bass design supports the use of multiple B1 bass modules or a single B2 bass module

  • Digital Ethercon port provides single-wire connectivity for the T1 ToneMatch audio engine

Physical

Enclosure
Power Stand: Polypropylene cover with cast aluminum legs and steel chassis base
Cylindrical Radiator: Aluminum enclosuure with ABS baffle

Dimensions
Assembled height: 84.0" (2134 mm)

Net Weight
Power Stand: 23.7 lb (10.7 kg)
Cylindrical Radiators (pair): 33.7 lb (15.3 kg)
B1 bass module: 26.6 lb (12.1 kg)
B2 bass module: 45 lb (20.41 kg)

Color
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Package Contents
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Bose L1® Model I


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Release Date: 2007-03-29
Height: 82.5 inches
Weight: 97 pounds (includes B1)
Power Stand Depth:26 inches
Power Stand Width:26 inches
Description: Bose Spatial Dispersion™ system technology delivers sound evenly across the stage and throughout the audience. The L1 Model I and L1 Model II systems project sound waves forward and to the sides at nearly 180 degrees and with little vertical dispersion, reducing unwanted room reverberation. Amplified sound is spread more evenly across the stage and into the audience. The volume level drops off much more slowly than with a conventional speaker.
Description: High-performing, powered, portable two-way loudspeaker system with a 160° H x 0° V nominal dispersion designed for the production and reproduction of live music, music playback, speeches and A/V sound reproduction

  • Spatial Dispersion loudspeaker technology produces wide, uniform sound coverage throughout the entire listening area—even off to the extreme sides

  • Consistent front-to-back coverage, 24 drivers mounted in a vertical line array design produce a loss of only 3 dB in sound pressure level per doubling in distance

  • Integrated ToneMatch® presets for popular vocal microphones and instruments

  • Integrated 4-channel mixer with wired remote control

  • Lightweight, interlocking components for easy transport

  • Expandable bass design supports the use of multiple B1 bass modules

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    Bose L1® T1 ToneMatch® Audio Engine


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    Release Date: 2007-03-29
    Height: inches
    Weight: 2.1 pounds
    dimensions 8.22" H x 6.52" W x 2.66" D (209 mm H x 165 mm W x 67 mm D)

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    Description: FAQ, documentation, hints and tips for owners of the T1 ToneMatch® Audio Engine
    Description: T1 ToneMatch® Audio Engine

    Features

    ToneMatch - Features
    Technical Specifications

    Audio Channels
    4

    Outputs
    2- Master and AUX

    A/D and D/A Converters
    24-bit

    Sample Rate
    48 kHz

    USB & Interfaces
    1.1 protocol, Type A to Type B cable

    Dimensions
    8.22" H x 6.52" W x 2.66" D (209 mm H x 165 mm W x 67 mm D)

    Shipping Weight
    2.1 lb (.97 kg)

    The T1 ToneMatch® audio engine is a digital multichannel mixer designed for use with Bose® L1® sound systems. It provides four independent channels, over 100 proprietary ToneMatch presets for instruments and microphones and a complete suite of studio-class effects and sound processors.

    Proprietary ToneMatch presets optimize L1 system to match the intended natural sound of specific instruments and vocal mics. Over 100 presets are organized into quick-access banks and can be independently assigned to each channel. Free ongoing updates can be downloaded via a USB connection between your computer and the ToneMatch audio engine.

    • More than 100 proprietary ToneMatch presets for a variety of popular microphones and instruments

    • Four input channels with independent selection of ToneMatch presets and effects

    • Proprietary zEQ for precise tone control, plus a complete suite of studio-class effects and processing, such as reverb, delay and modulation

    • Chromatic tuner

    • Phantom power

    • Compatible with any L1 system
      (requires T1 power supply for use with L1 Model 1 and L1 Compact systems, and with a PC)


    User interface

    ToneMatch - User Interface
    1. Input signal/clip LEDs (1-4/5) — Displays the input signal status in color: Green indicates the presence of an input signal, yellow indicates a signal near clipping and red indicates clipping

    2. Trim controls (1-4/5) — Adjust the input sensitivity for the respective channel

    3. Phantom power switch — Applies +48V power to input channels 1-3. A red LED indicates that phantom power is on

    4. Display — Provides function menus and system status information

    5. T1 rotary selector — Allows access to both global and channel related parameters, which are adjusted using the editing controls

    6. Editing controls — These three rotary/push-button controls allow you to select or adjust items/values appearing on the display

    7. CH edit buttons (1-4/5) — Select the channel you want to modify using the T1 rotary selector and display-related editing controls

    8. FX mute buttons (1-4/5) — Bypass the Mod, Delay and Reverb effects on the selected channel

    9. Volume controls (1-4/5) — Adjust the volume level for the respective channel

    10. Mute buttons (1-4/5) — Silence the audio output for the respective channel

    11. MASTER volume control — Adjusts the overall output level

    Inputs and Outputs

    ToneMatch - Inputs and outputs
    1. ToneMatch port — A digital output used by the L1 Model 1S and Model II systems. Also delivers power to the T1 audio engine from the L1 Model 1S and Model II power stands. Accepts the included ToneMatch cable

    2. Power switch — Turns the T1 audio engine on or off

    3. IN — Analog input channels 1-3. Accepts XLR balanced cables for microphones, or ¼" TRS balanced or TS unbalanced cables for high-impedance inputs such as guitars

    4. USB port — A USB interface that allows you to connect the T1 to your computer. This feature enables you to stream audio to/from your computer, update the T1 and back up performance scenes

    5. Preamp OUT — Preamp outputs for channels 1-3. Accepts ¼" TRS balanced or TS unbalanced cables

    6. Master output — User-definable analog output. Can be configured for a pre- or post-master volume analog output. Accepts ¼" TRS balanced or TS unbalanced cables

    7. Aux output — User-definable analog output. Can be configured for a pre-fader, post-EQ, and effects or post fader output. Accepts ¼" TRS balanced or TS unbalanced cables

    8. Line IN — Analog input channels 4/5. Accepts ¼" TRS balanced or TS unbalanced cables for line-level inputs. Can be used for stereo input signals

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    Bose L1® Compact


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    Release Date: 2012-09-27
    Height: 78.5 inches
    Weight: 29.2 pounds
    Power Stand Depth:16.8 inches
    Power Stand Width:13.2 inches
    Description: FAQ, documentation, hints and tips for owners of the L1® Comppact
    Description:

    Key Features

    • High-performing, powered, portable two-way loudspeaker system with a 180° H x 40° V nominal dispersion designed for the production and reproduction of live music, music playback, speeches and A/V sound reproduction

    • Articulated line array loudspeaker technology produces wide, uniform sound coverage throughout the entire listening area—even off to the extreme sides

    • Curved array design provides 40° of vertical coverage

    • Integrated ToneMatch® presets contain hardwired equalization curves for dynamic handheld microphones and acoustic guitars

    • Lightweight, interlocking components for easy transport

    • Offers both collapsed and extended setup positions

    Physical

    Enclosure
    Power Stand: Polypropylene
    Extensions and Array: ABS

    Dimensions
    Assembled height, collapsed position: 16.5" (418 mm)
    Assembled height, extended position: 78.5" (1995 mm)

    Net Weight
    Power Stand: 24.6 lb (11.2 kg)
    Extensions (each): 2.3 lb (1.1 kg)

    Color
    Black

    Package Contents
    1 system

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    Bose L1® B2 Bass Module


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    Release Date: 2012-09-27
    Height: 23.4 inches
    Weight: 45 pounds
    dimensions 23.4H x 13.31W x 18.9D (59.4 cm x 33.8 cm x 48 cm)

    Power Stand Depth:18.9 inches
    Power Stand Width:13.31 inches
    Description: FAQ, documentation, hints and tips for owners of the Bose B2 Bass Module
    Description:
    • High-performance flexible bass module
    • Designed to provide deep, impactful bass for higher SPL live music and DJ applications
    • Features two 10" high-excursion woofers mounted in a rugged enclosure
    • Features a three-position sensing switch, allowing bass output to be adjusted for different applications
    • Interlocking end caps allow up to two B2 modules to be stacked together
    • Includes a slip cover and NL4 cable

    [edit] Electrical Specifications

    • Impedance: 4 ohms
    • When used with Model 1S or Model II
      • Frequency Response (+/-3 dB) 40Hz - 200 Hz
      • Frequency Range (-10 dB) 32 Hz - 200 Hz


    • When used with Model / Classic
      • Frequency Response (+/-3 dB) 40 Hz - 180 Hz
      • Frequency Range (-10 dB) 32 Hz - 180 Hz

    [edit] Mechanical Specifications

    Dimensions: 23.4H x 13.31W x 18.9D (59.4 cm x 33.8 cm x 48 cm)

    Weight: 45 lb (20.41 kg)


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